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Response To Geezer’s Statement

Posted on May.20, 2012 under Black Sabbath

Dear Sabbath Fans and Musicians,

I have read Geezer’s statement of May 19, 2012 titled “Heavy Heart.”  Out of respect for the Birmingham gig, I wanted to wait 24 hours before releasing this statement.  There are some points he brought up which I want to respond to.

1)  I had indeed notified Ozzy, Tony and Geezer, well before my first public statement, that I was having contractual difficulties.

2)  I came out into a public forum to be accountable to the fans primarily, and to say at a public level there’s a problem.  The band members stopped talking and corresponding with me some time ago, with the exception of a nice letter from Tony on my birthday.  Prior to that, Geezer and I were corresponding, but that stopped abruptly in late February after I emailed a specific question to him.

3)  In my statement of May 15, I clearly stated I would play Birmingham for free.  That was not a problem – charity or otherwise.

4)  My Download fee was not an extravagant amount.  Originally, when Download was part of a full tour, I had asked for a decent fee.  More recently, as we were negotiating just Download/Birmingham and Lollapalooza, I told my attorney that I would accept the proposed small Download fee, but there were other parts of the offer that were unsatisfactory.

I will continue to be honest and respectful towards the band and our fans.  I will also confront any untruths about me, and any fault finding missions aimed at me that come to my attention.

I hope the band and the fans had a good gig in Brum.

Stay safe/stay strong.
Bill Ward

71 comments for this entry:
  1. Andres

    The band is not the same without you, hope back to see you playing in Black Sabbath, best wishes.

  2. SoberInMN

    Dear Black Sabbath Member (this includes Bill, of course!),

    From the back and forth we’ve all been witnessing going between the Ward & Sabbath camps, it seems to me like you guys just need to get together face to face in some kind of a private location to try to hash this thing out man-to-man without all the lawyers and such acting as middlemen; a “retreat” as such…

    I would like to offer up my humble abode as a location for such a retreat. Between my wife and myself, we have over 45+ years of continued sobriety/clean time (for Ozzy & Bill), we have a family member who has undergone chemotherapy treatments (for Tony), and one of my good friends has an extensive collection of exotic & home-brewed ale’s and brews (Geezer still drinks, right?). I also have a fully-stocked home studio with plenty of basses, a drumkit, and amps (Marshall & Laney) the boys could use to work out some jams …sorry, no “lefty” guitars, but I’m sure I could find something for Tony if necessary. We have plenty of room for you all to crash out here, and as I’m a long-haired freak (& many of my friends are to), the addition of a few more musician types would not arouse suspicion in our quiet Minnesota neighborhood. Not that I condone violence in any form, but we do have quite a good stock of big fluffy pillows that the boys could use to work out any resentments using physical aggression. To top it off, I have a JayDee Iommi Custom guitar that’s being finished now which they could deliver to me, so it’s a win-win-win-win-win for everyone!

    Sound good?

    Please guys, just hash this thing out between one another for the sake of your friendship…

    Peace!

  3. Matt Dixon

    Stay strong Bill, the fans still love you and nobody can mimic the way you play drums. Hope things work out and we get to see you at Lollapalooza!

  4. Disappointed in Everything

    Shut the fuck up, Call Iommi, Butler and Ozzy, fucking work this out BETWEEN YOURSELVES, WITHOUT REPRESENTATIVES, PRESS RELEASES OR THE INTERNET and play with Sabbath before you’re all dead Bill, Goddamnit!

  5. Randy Michaud

    As always, Bill, you are nothing but honest, forthcoming and respectful in your replies…we love you, man! I sincerely hope I get the chance to meet you one day and shake your hand! – Randy

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  7. Matthew Kennedy

    Bill,

    Take your ass to the UK and then Chicago. Stop this crap.

    All the best,

    Matthew

  8. Carl Draper

    It was a good gig but it would have been better with you on drums! I hope you all get sorted soon, and wish you all the best.

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  10. tom jamt

    the sab songs sound heavier with bill live and in the studio !

  11. Monte

    I have no doubt Bill has tried his best on his end and If I were Bill I don’t see myself taking things in as he has, maybe bottling it all up but to have this happen as Bill stated Feb 2nd “I’ve realized that I’ve been getting “the cold shoulder”” would hurt me pretty hard, how do you respond to friends when this happens without risk of further harm relationship wise ?, It’s not as easy as it sounds to “sort things out” My heart is telling me there is something dreadfully wrong on the other side of the pond. as much as I want to deny it, it keeps giving me that sinking feeling. I’ve been a long time SABS fan, from 12 to now 51 those first 8 LP’s were my life, they were like the father I never had, listening to them was like reading the Bible, and I bet they themselves never thought how deep their music could effect people, when I was young I was dragged to church and many occasions denied that God existed and through the song After Forever I changed my ways. I just now hope that somehow someway that the SABS can work things out.
    I created a site in hopes of helping Bill but I have send thought about it, I really thought the fans could help try to get Bill his well deserved Throne back by creating 1,000,000 fans boycott Black Sabbath without Bill, I’m sure I didn’t need to create it as most fans are savoy enough to just not buy into it, many bought tickets before they knew this was going to end this way, some bought tickets anyway knowing Bill wasn’t in, some think Vinnie is better, to each their own opinion but on my side of the fence no one plays Sabbath better than Bill ! Rock’n'Sh!ne Bill we all Love you.

  12. Dark Sol

    I seriously do not understand how a 60 year old musicians who grew together , who played together for nearly 40 years.. cannot come to a damn agreement! This is childish, stupid and ridiculous. CMON Bill put your greed/pride/whatever away and let the shit actually happen. This may be the last epic music reunion in history of ROCK N ROLL. And surely the best. Do it while you are actually alive and still can do it. It’s better let it happen and feel sorry/disgusted/ashamed/whatever then do not let this happen and still feel sorry/disgusted/ashamed/whatever. CMON. There’s already too much crap in all this.

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  15. neoptolemus

    Bill, I am asking you to disengage from any further (professional) contact with/response to the other Sabs. Take the high road here — it’s best for you and for the fans. Responding to their statements (no matter how justified your position is) will only feed the controversy. Move on with your own projects. Wish the other guys well. Enjoy life. It hurts me to say it, but they apparently don’t want you, and you can’t make them change their minds. Life is too short. Find happiness now. Let this go.

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  17. Dany

    We always supported you, and now we spent tons to go to Download and you will not be there. You should at least honor your word in the 11-11-11 announcement, because it made several fans to plan and spend only to see you. Please, stop using us even more to support your pocket, it’s not fair.

  18. zig

    I’ve heard this. And Tommy Clufetos isn’t Bill Ward. Where is this magic ? Where is this groove ? Bill pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee….

  19. Gerry

    Come on Bill stop making this a publ;ic event on the internet. If your’e not going to Join Sabbath,Get Beyond Aston released while we are young!!!

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  21. Arizona Darkblade

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let me hear Bill play with you guys at the Download Festival. I am making my first trip overseas just to see the original four which I missed back in 1980 because Ozzy wasn’t in the band. I just want to experience the four of you ONE TIME in my lifetime on stage together. I LOVE YOU BILL!

    -BLACK SABBATH (There is only one: Bill, Tony, Geezer, Ozzy)

  22. Graf

    Bill, if you really wanted to be with Sabbath then you would make it work out. All this crap about an signable contract is bullshit. If you really want to make this happen, to owe it to yourself and the fans, then you would stop this childish behaviour and make it work out. Coming public with something you should have dealt with personally is ridiculous.
    I love your drumming, it’s definitely the best drumming of all the Sabbath drummers ever! Please do figure it out but some crying to all the fans, you’re talking to the wrong people. Give Tony/Geezer/Ozzy a phone call or damn, have a bloody face to face meeting.

  23. Bob E

    Hi Bill. You happen to be one of my favourite drummers of all time, and that’s saying something because I really only have two. I also appreciate the way you open up to people about your recovery. I’ve been in recovery myself now for 25 years, thank God.

    What I want to say about all this internet stuff, is that I really think you and the other guys should be talking “to” each other about these things, not “about” one another to the fans. Doing things this way really doesn’t lead to resolution, in my experience, and I’ve been a professional mediator for over 15 years now. I think it really just stirs up drama, which tends to be more divisive.

    I’m thankful to all of you for the incredible musical gifts you’ve shared with all of us over the years. I’ve been a fan since I was a young boy and first heard “Iron Man.” I couldn’t believe anything could sound so amazing!

    I have the utmost respect for all of you and hope that you will be able to hear each other, respect each other and preserve the bonds of friendship, regardless of the business outcome.

    If you can all find some common ground on that front too, well that would be great. Best wishes to all, and prayers continue for a full recovery for Tony.

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  25. Pete

    The wheels of confusion keep rolling on, I still can’t believe this whole tragic mess has happened, I do still believe in your fight for truth and fairness, you’ll never lose the respect or loyalty of your fans.

  26. Dan Damian

    Hi Bill, this is Dan from Romania. We have never seen Black Sabbath play and would like to come to a show but we cannot fly all the way to a concert to see a Black Sabbath cover band (no disrespect for the other three members). Please work with the other guys to fix the issues, otherwise we may never get another chance to see you.
    All the love and respect,
    Dan

  27. MARK WILLIAMS

    Dear Bill,

    You all should know by now that life is too short, so stop deliberating over Terms & Conditions and do the right thing for you & the fans – rock !

  28. dje

    very sorry about all of that

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  30. Luiz Gustavo Inácio Antunes

    Sagrado amigo Bill,

    dói demais saber que o quarteto não está se entendendo,por favor tente outra vez pois a vida é muito curta. Afinal é o Black Sabbath cara!!!

  31. these things happen

    Spilt all costs and stuff fourways.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krsogBxVKpo
    Listen to this guy at 1:47. Very likewise situation.

    I won’t se sabbath w/out u Bill. Call the guy’s
    have a chat. And most iportant Tony get well.

  32. johnnyblade

    BILL,TONY,OZZY,GEEZER STOP BEING PUPPETS ON A STRING YOU GUYS CALL THE SHOTS NOT YOUR STINKING LAWYERS AND MANAGEMENT.

  33. martin

    This thing sucks why so stubburd? Cant you just work it out? It seems you have lost the respect to the other guys. Must be a dream for you to play again or isn´t? Its rhe lack of originality that is annoying. Even though its great almost everybody is together it concludes an anticlimax.
    I play drums myself and you are an inspiration among the first reasons I wanted to play myself.

    To be honest I think you lost your ability yo play solid drums a few years ago and thats sad. As its sad to hear a reunion without you or even making a new album without you, whats the point?

    No harm meen but I somehow lost my suport for you cause all of this mess.

    Just slap the fucking drums make people happy and shut up :)

  34. MIKE MC

    dear bill ward i was just about to buy the black sabbath special issue from metal hammer magazine and to my distaste you are not even on the front of it with oz,gzr and iommi. this makes me very sad and from what ive heard on the grapevine is to be true i wouldnt want to be sabbath playing at download this year cause theres a anti black sabbath site that are having a walk out when they come on stage and ive seen that happen at donnington park for monsters of rock in 94 when every one refused to get up till extreme left the stage. im sorry but when sabbath say they are coming back as the original group you have to give us the fans what we want {not that im upset with you bill you,ve gotta do what you,ve gotta do} but sabbath and there management want to remember who put them on the maps in the first place. im sorry but if your not even gonna be on that new album then im sorry but sabbath are gonna die on there arses, cause when i listen to sabbath i want to hear the four lads from birmingham play not 3 of em and ozzy,s drummer.

  35. elio

    thanks Bill for the great music and best drums that i’ve ever listened to.40 years of pleasure.
    Hate to think what life would have been without Black Sabbath.
    You’re worth every cent.

  36. Bill

    Bill I love your aggressive style,and Sab ain’t Black without you Bill.I was told onceI play a lot like you.Jeez what a compliment,(Maybe cause when I started to play I followed you on Paranoid 10,000 TIMES)but on the real as they say Don’t turn this thing into another GnR Saga..Do it for us man the folks that have stood in the rain for 40 years waiting to buy tickets,we deserve no less Para diddle Bill,cheers Bill..

  37. Rob

    I bought Dowload tickets the second they went on sale. To see you playing. Though not your fault I agree, you are denying tens of thousands of people the pleasure of seeing Black Sabbath for the last time.

    A good reason would be to honour one last time the 4 guys who as a team invented heavy metal and influenced every band since. BILL, Geezer, Tony and Ozzy. One has heart conditions, one has cancer, one is a notorious (ex) junkie who has even had his genes tested to see why he defies death from abuse. Do you guys really think there will be many more chances to reunite. I sincerely hope so, but I wouldn’t count on it.

    If for no other reason, please realise that the thousands and thousands of pounds the fans have spent to see you are mich higher than your share of the cut. We are the ones being unfairly treated.

    Sabbath without you is not Sabbath. Fans want YOU there.

  38. Pistol Pete

    Bill,
    I hope you play download mate. It would be monumental.
    Cant imagine listening to someone else playing those tunes. It wont be the same……….

  39. John

    Bill, put the contract to aside, you really want to play back with the boys, and honestly we are all dying to see the original line-up, i never thought black sabbath would be back together, this is a one lifetime opportunity for me, i dont know how longer you guys are gonna live, and if theres anything i want in life is to see you, tony, geezer and ozzy back together. So please, talk to them in personal or call them, i sort this out without having to talk with all these managers and shit :x best wishes to you bill

  40. andrew linn

    this is a piss poor show from one of my idols so what if you were only going to be able to play three songs with the band at a couple of gigs. you let down your fans badly. i bought a download ticket with all the money i had and i mean that literately on the pretence of seeing the FULL line up of the original Black Sabbath my favourite band of all time that i never in my wildest thought i might get to see live. your bands music probably has influenced my life more than education ever has. its why i started playing music, started going to gigs and made music a core part of my life (i pretty much live and breath it) you let the kid, their parents and in some cases their grandparents down thats how big an influence you got to be a part of by being in Black Sabbath. the last part of my childhood dreams of seeing Black sabbath are now dead and this has left me EXTREMELY disapointed to say the least

    yours sincerely

    Andrew Linn

  41. Gerry

    When it is time to move on,it is time to move on. Certainly Bill should be in Black Sabbath but apparaently Tony,Geez and OZ don’t think so. Bill has not played a gig since 2005 and has been promising his loyal fans like myself Beyond Aston for over 10 years. Mr. Ward I absolutely love you but when the hell are you going to release it? I am surprised you got so many responces on this site to this contract issue . You are giving your fans absolutely nothing to support you!!!

  42. steve

    Bill. You really missed some great shows. The drummer that replaced you was awesome. By the end of the third song everyone was like wow. Bill who? Who cares is what.
    Stay home and do what you do, nothing, notta, squaduche.
    Tony was spot on, you would never know he was sick. Geezer and the new and I hope permanent drummer, were grooving like no other rhythm section could do. Ozzy was Ozzy and you missed it all. Tuff luck for you then.
    See ya. You may as well burns the shite Ashton tapes.
    Thanks for nothing.

  43. Mike Smedley

    If the other 3 Black Sabbath members wanted you to play a “trial” show in Birmingham, there must be a reason for that. I mean, Tony and Geezer didn’t have to play “trial” show before being allowed to play the whole tour. I can’t help but think it is because your playing has not been up to par, or your personality clashes very badly with the other 3 members. This is about you, not them. You should have played that Birmingham gig, Bill.

  44. SHAUN N LISE FROM HULL

    FIRSTLY HUGE RESPECT TO YOU BILL FOR REMAINING TRUE TO YOURSELF AND KEEPING YOUR DIGNITY AMONGST THE UNIMAGINABLE BOLLOCKS YOU HAVE HAD TO CONTEND WITH. WE TRULY HOPE THINGS WORK OUT FINE BETWEEN EVERYBODY AND FRIENDSHIPS WILL BE RESTORED BUT IF NOT, BILL, YOU!!! ARE OUR BLACK SABBATH!!!! ITS ALRIGHT – ITS ALRIGHT!! HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON XXX

  45. tony l

    I REFUSE TO SEE SABBATH WITHOUT BILL WARD..HELL, HIS DRUMMING IS THE BEST PART.

  46. gerry

    Sabbath has moved on,I truly believe their is no going back. They seem very happy with their new drummer. Bill have you ever thought about playing in a jazz band? Ginger baker is still playing. Beyond Aston will never be released I assume? Well stop making promises you can’t keep.

  47. Craig

    There has got to be a way to work this out. I can’t bear the idea of a Black Sabbath album being recorded without you.

  48. John

    To quote Geezer from 19th May 2012: “frankly those things are worked out between our representatives, and never between the four of us…”
    Well… Geezer is officially represented by his wife, Gloria Butler. As for Ozzy, wouldn’t that be his missus Sharon?
    So, four friends from Birmingham no longer have power or control over their own lives, what with all the success and money they’ve made granting them freedom undreamt of by most of us mere mortals. Plus, we’re supposed to believe they are unaware of the business deals their “own wives” are working on, and that they have no influence in the decision making process.
    Come on, please…

  49. mr. roa

    i rarely write comments but i will say after 32+ years in retail record store & rock n roll business sabbath remains a vital part of my music interest. from the times as a high school kid in radio class listening to this song called iron man and years later showing off my new album called volume 4 or being the first to flash the sabotage album to my friends. there was nothing like it in the world. here i am selling those same albums to the next generation. at least i did get to see the great bill ward tearing it up at cobo for the sabotage tour! i wish you the best mr. ward.

  50. Cray

    Bill, it would appear your band is reaching out to you. I really hope you guys can work stuff out. You see, no matter who plays these songs with Iommi and Ozzy, they never do sound the same. And as a fellow musician, we all know the drummer matters. There is no Doors without Densmore, Zeppelin without Bonham, etc. I am sure you are hearing it from all sides. One of the tactical challenges you have all had to face I am sure is that this is not Birmingham, it isn’t 1966-1968, you guys aren’t just meeting for the first time, you have a history and a legacy that you can all wear and shrug off time to time. You would all do well to approach this reunion like it is all brand new and fresh and forget the lawyers and the middlemen when dealing with each other. Bill, I don’t know you from Adam, but I’d rather see you in that band than not. But if I was you, 60+ years and you know you might be gone in a few, and since most of your fans are slaving away at meaningless jobs and leading unhappy, unfulfilled lives, I’d jump on that kit in a heartbeat to stave of any other of life’s options….lol….if you ain’t in it, there is nothing but the gnashing of teeth, so I hope you work out your things with the contract and the band, but do your thing with the band and worry about the contract later. The privilege to play goes to so few, and well, your the lucky one’s, all of you. I hope you understand my meaning…remember when you would have done it for nothing, and just go to it.

  51. Steve

    Bill

    If Ozzy, Geezer or Tony were to pass away tomorrow, would you be prepared to reunite with the surviving members at the funeral and mourne your departed friend without any contractual dispute?

    Steve

  52. BigBadGuitarMan

    Bill,
    I am behind you 100% both as a musician and as a huge fan! I’m a guitarist who started out as a drummer and you were one of if not the most important reason I became a musician. I will not buy tickets to a Sabbath show unless you are there period! I refused free tickets to see Priest because there was no Downing because it’s just not JP without him and the same goes here! It’s just not Sabbath without you! One of my biggest dreams for almost over 25 years has been to see the original line up and it’s upsetting to be so close then have the bottom drop out! God bless. BBGM

  53. JD

    Your staement tries to seem like you are being the victim, but it shows you are not. You said you were willing to do download for the same “decent” fee as before when it was part of a tour.

    However, you demanding the same share for a more expensive one-off show means you are not looking for the same piece of the pie, you want more, or simply don’t care if others get less.

    Additionally, you were only willing to play the charity show for free if you got what you wanted for the other shows.

    It is sad. Change your name to Peter Criss and join the ranks of those who hurt the fans at the expense of some perceived leverage that does not exist.

    I saw you twice at the Sabbath Ozzfest shows, it is a shame you are denying the fans the chance to see the original line up. It was an experience I will not forget and one you are trying to exploit.

    Two sides to every story, but you are simply not telling the whole truth with your version.

  54. Matthew

    Bill,

    Keep the lines of communication open with the other members of the band. None of you guys are getting any younger, and time is running out to reunite and give the fans what they want: the original Black Sabbath both live and in the studio. I hope that there will be some reasonable common ground that can be reached at some point.

    The early Black Sabbath albums are the soundtracks to the lives of many fans, and they occupy a special place in our hearts. They bring strength and joy.
    After all of the hype surrounding a reunion and new album, the developments this year leave me and other fans feeling, well, empty.

  55. andrew

    those 3 tight ass’s ..tony ,ozzy ,geezer , think they should get more money cause they’ve been in the spotlight forever ,where as you bill remain true to your roots and only jam where and when your heart tells you,”i should do this gig”,…those guys got more money than they could ever spend , as i pressume you do as well? so whats with all this ,”i want more coin” from all you guys??this is the most important heavy metal of all time we are talking about. it shouldnt be about the dollar, as we all know you said “you’d play for free” at brum,but for some reason ,you still didnt make the grade. fuck those 3 ego maniac”s they give me the fuckin shits. carn’t stand any of those 3 guys anymore unless they,as well as yourself are all together under the black sabbath banner….it hurt’s me to say that , as you 3 guys have always been my idols. there must be one more round for sabbath , befor you are all dead and buried. .this wasnt meant to be an insult, and hope its not takin as such

  56. chad hallman

    Bill, Long time fan here ! I wish that everyone would get it right in their heads. The Reunion is not a reunion without all 4 original members . It’s like having a Beatle’s reunion without John Lennon. You 4 started this and it’s the way it should be.
    Come on Tony & Ozzy & Geezer , let’s cut the crap and get Bill back to where he belongs. Thank you!

    Peace & Love ,
    Chad

  57. daniel kubasek

    Bill;

    Please reunite with your mates. The paychecks
    will follow, because you guys put out a good product,
    and will be in demand.

    Thanks

    Dan

  58. daniel kubasek

    Bill;

    The way you beat those skins should not be done by anyone else but you. Go and play with your lifelong mates and have fun and be one again.

    nothing else matters

    peace and love Dan

  59. Spacehog

    We need you man. I’ve been looking fwd to seeing all 4 of you since last November. Why was it all too good to be true? Slow unraveling of my happy anticipation in buying tickets to see you guys again as I read the news & kept up every day & every week with how this & that & everything else wasn’t working out. I’m so disappointed (not in you obviously but rather the situation).
    We need you man! Check it out at the 2:24 mark:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI4hlclo8D4&feature=related

    That’s the guy we need back!

  60. Bill Jarboe

    Bill you pulled the same shit prior to Sabbath playing an Ozzfest tour. You are a real jerk for being so petty. you will be dead sooner than later what will the money do for you then?

    Do it for the many fans who have never seen the original Sabbath.

    WTF, get your head out of your ass and go play on the new album and tour with your mates. Quit being so selfish.

  61. Greg Thomas

    Sabbath fan since 15 when I found an 8-track tape of Masters of Reality in the garbage. Instantly changed my life. I don’t know if for better or worse. Played Sabbath for my kids while still in the womb. I am now 50 yrs old. When my kids heard you guys were going to play, they cried from joy. I have told them of seeing Sabbath in 1978 at the Garden and they wish they could have that experience too. Please. Thank you.

  62. Wadson Xavier

    I do not understand how contractual disagreements may prevent the four original band members get together and make the fans happy. I sincerely hope you solve it. I hope the album can be with you on drums. It’s sad that you can not reach an agreement. We were hopeful that the guy who plays drums on the Sabbath is Bill Ward. Hugs from a Brazilian fan.

  63. Chad Hallman

    Bill long time fan of you and the whole ORIGINAL band! Bottom line is that not only myself wishes you were a part of the New Reunion, but WE / ALL the fans want you and need you where you belong. It’s not the same without you my friend. I say daily prayers and send constit requests to every place I can in hopes that they can help put you back where you belong. And that’s behind that kit & drumming for Black Sabbath. Take care my friend and I / WE will be pulling for you!

  64. rag

    Bill, Stuff the legal people. Can’t you 4 guys just bang your heads together in a pub somewhere and iron (man) out your differences. I’m sure that’s what would have happened in the early days. None of you are getting any younger, this could be your last chance to play and record together as a unit. In another decade you won’t be able to even hold drum sticks, let alone play. Don’t you all owe it to us the fans, most of whom have been with you since the beginning! Cutting you off the photos on the Official Black Sabbath website, erasing you from their history is pathetic. We all know you were there so why take your image off the pictures, was that the legal people in suits advising you. It sucks. get a grip people. Should heavy metal end, Simon Cowell wins, and none of us want that do we?

  65. jabeth

    Bill this may come as a surprise to you and your band mates but none of us, including you, are getting any younger. Could the the four of you for the benifit of your fans “GROW UP” and not let the current trend of greed overtake your decision process!! I am by no means saying that you all should perform for nothing but please put some common sense into your decisions and give us fans of the last 35 years one last show!!! After all because of us “The Fans” we have given the four of you a very comfortable lifestyle so Reward Us with one final tour with the original band!! Signed “Master of Reality”

  66. Scott

    Of course anyone will take your place in Sabbath. I’d do it for free Bill. They can get away with paying you guys nothing if they want to

    But the fact of the matter is, (at least for the fans, and I hope the band) we want YOU guys to play. Differences be damned. We all know about Iommi’s health issues. I’ll be sorely dissappointed if we don’t get another Bill Ward/Sabbath album.

    I don’t care who’s at fault here, I just wanna see you guys play. I’m dissappointed.

  67. Scott

    Then again, I’m happy with what we have. But you gotta remember, it’s the only shit in the universe like this. It only happens one way and it only happens one time. then it’s cememted in the sands of time.

    If we don’t get another one, I just want to thank you for all the work Bill! I’ve loved it. I’ve lived it, it’s that good. I’m happy to have had Sabbath with all four members when we did.

  68. Leonardo

    Hi i am from Brazil, i am 31 years old, my father was of syrian origins, i say that, black sabbath could be your friends, could be your family, have only 2 options, or they are friends of you, or are not, maybe the fans never understand that the Bill Ward of the first album image, is not the same today, people does not understands what is a band comes back after 35 years !!!!!!, as a fan, i don’t think with dio, with gillan, and anothers, the band was not more the same, so if you likes the band and the band wants you, you can’t left them back, it is time to decide, what you will left in the heavy metal, I THINK VERY MUCH THAT YOU ALL CAN DO A ALBUM MUCH MORE GOOD THAN 13, I LIKED 13, so is the begin to left something better, i guess you can do !!

  69. rodolfo vicenzi

    Im going in a black sab gig on oct 9 … i wish seing you there

    Brasil loves you
    Best regards

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  71. holly wilson

    We think youre the greatest Bill Ward!!!

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